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Henk

I echo Justin's comment!

Regards
Brett

Hi Justin & Brett

Thanks for comment : I have enjoyed this group for many years. It lacked the 2 WWII medals until I persuaded his one nephew to apply for the WM and ASM in 1998.They have pantograph engraved naming. This relative had the MiD certificate which helped him to substantiate the claim, but he flatly refused to let me have the certificate.

Henk

This is from the next Kaplan sale. No picture but surely a contender for this title:

SAGS (1) 1879 (QR. MR. Sgt LANDSBERG Natal Hussars)
QSA (2) Nat Tr (Capt M. Landsberg Umvoti Mounted Rifles) engraved.
KSA (2) (Captain)
Natal (1) 1906 (Captain) engraved
Colonial Auxiliary Forces Decoration EVII (Captain)
Victoria Volunteer Force Long Service Medal (Captain J.H.M. Landsberg U.M.R.)

"Landsberg was an early member of the Natal Hussars and had a long association with the Umvoti Mounted Rlfels. He appears in an early photo of the NCO's of the Natal Hussars taken in 1875, (front row 1st left hand side as you look at the photo), (photo whith caption held in the SA National War Museum Photo Archives) The caption on the photo states "CpI Jno Landsberg SQMS during Zulu War" The caption presumably means John, the English for Johan. This photo (without caption) is reproduced in A.J. Du Plessis. "The Umvoti Mounted Rifles 1864 - 1975, on page 54. in 1887 the Natal Hussars amalgamated with the Natal Carbineer's, while in 1893 the Left Wing became the Umvoti Mounted Rifles.

Landsberg saw action at Inyezane (22 January 1879) during the Zulu War. During the Zulu Rebellion 1906, Landsberg again appears to have performed a special duty. "The Intelligence Officer at this important post (Krantzkop) was Capt. M. Lansberg, U.M.R. whose information from the date of his assumption of duty to the conclusion of the Rebellion was remarkably full and accurate" A document dated 1908, provides an intriguing insight into Landsberg's activities during the Zulu Rebellion. In terms of the document Landsberg lodges a claim regarding the payment of detectives he appointed to gather intelligence at the reguest of the Prime Minister of Natal. In 1907 he was appointed Justice of the peace for the Kranskop area of the Umvoti and Magistrate of the Umvoti Division at Greytown in 1911. In 1908 he claimed prize money for activities relating to the Basuto War of 1880/81, presumably for the recovery of cattle.

NOTE: Landsberg's Volunteer Long Service Medal was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 7 January 1902 (Capt H.M. Landsberg UMR) He was inadvertently gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 18 September 1906 for the Colonial Auxiliary Forces medal ( Capt J.H.M. Landsberg UMR). His Colonial Auxiliary Forces Officers Decoration was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 24 May 1910 (Capt. M. Landsberg UMR), being the last of the 25 decorations awarded to Natal Officers.

I don't know if it could be described as the "best" South African group, because it would appeal more to someone who is interested in Natal, I also think the term best SA group, is rather down to the personal preference of a particular collector.

djb wrote: This is from the next Kaplan sale. No picture but surely a contender for this title:

SAGS (1) 1879 (QR. MR. Sgt LANDSBERG Natal Hussars)
QSA (2) Nat Tr (Capt M. Landsberg Umvoti Mounted Rifles) engraved.
KSA (2) (Captain)
Natal (1) 1906 (Captain) engraved
Colonial Auxiliary Forces Decoration EVII (Captain)
Victoria Volunteer Force Long Service Medal (Captain J.H.M. Landsberg U.M.R.)

"Landsberg was an early member of the Natal Hussars and had a long association with the Umvoti Mounted Rlfels. He appears in an early photo of the NCO's of the Natal Hussars taken in 1875, (front row 1st left hand side as you look at the photo), (photo whith caption held in the SA National War Museum Photo Archives) The caption on the photo states "CpI Jno Landsberg SQMS during Zulu War" The caption presumably means John, the English for Johan. This photo (without caption) is reproduced in A.J. Du Plessis. "The Umvoti Mounted Rifles 1864 - 1975, on page 54. in 1887 the Natal Hussars amalgamated with the Natal Carbineer's, while in 1893 the Left Wing became the Umvoti Mounted Rifles.

Landsberg saw action at Inyezane (22 January 1879) during the Zulu War. During the Zulu Rebellion 1906, Landsberg again appears to have performed a special duty. "The Intelligence Officer at this important post (Krantzkop) was Capt. M. Lansberg, U.M.R. whose information from the date of his assumption of duty to the conclusion of the Rebellion was remarkably full and accurate" A document dated 1908, provides an intriguing insight into Landsberg's activities during the Zulu Rebellion. In terms of the document Landsberg lodges a claim regarding the payment of detectives he appointed to gather intelligence at the reguest of the Prime Minister of Natal. In 1907 he was appointed Justice of the peace for the Kranskop area of the Umvoti and Magistrate of the Umvoti Division at Greytown in 1911. In 1908 he claimed prize money for activities relating to the Basuto War of 1880/81, presumably for the recovery of cattle.

NOTE: Landsberg's Volunteer Long Service Medal was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 7 January 1902 (Capt H.M. Landsberg UMR) He was inadvertently gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 18 September 1906 for the Colonial Auxiliary Forces medal ( Capt J.H.M. Landsberg UMR). His Colonial Auxiliary Forces Officers Decoration was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 24 May 1910 (Capt. M. Landsberg UMR), being the last of the 25 decorations awarded to Natal Officers.

and it is missing a Cape of Good Hope and/or a British South Africa Company medal.

Frank Kelley wrote: I don't know if it could be described as the "best" South African group, because it would appeal more to someone who is interested in Natal, I also think the term best SA group, is rather down to the personal preference of a particular collector.

djb wrote: This is from the next Kaplan sale. No picture but surely a contender for this title:

SAGS (1) 1879 (QR. MR. Sgt LANDSBERG Natal Hussars)
QSA (2) Nat Tr (Capt M. Landsberg Umvoti Mounted Rifles) engraved.
KSA (2) (Captain)
Natal (1) 1906 (Captain) engraved
Colonial Auxiliary Forces Decoration EVII (Captain)
Victoria Volunteer Force Long Service Medal (Captain J.H.M. Landsberg U.M.R.)

"Landsberg was an early member of the Natal Hussars and had a long association with the Umvoti Mounted Rlfels. He appears in an early photo of the NCO's of the Natal Hussars taken in 1875, (front row 1st left hand side as you look at the photo), (photo whith caption held in the SA National War Museum Photo Archives) The caption on the photo states "CpI Jno Landsberg SQMS during Zulu War" The caption presumably means John, the English for Johan. This photo (without caption) is reproduced in A.J. Du Plessis. "The Umvoti Mounted Rifles 1864 - 1975, on page 54. in 1887 the Natal Hussars amalgamated with the Natal Carbineer's, while in 1893 the Left Wing became the Umvoti Mounted Rifles.

Landsberg saw action at Inyezane (22 January 1879) during the Zulu War. During the Zulu Rebellion 1906, Landsberg again appears to have performed a special duty. "The Intelligence Officer at this important post (Krantzkop) was Capt. M. Lansberg, U.M.R. whose information from the date of his assumption of duty to the conclusion of the Rebellion was remarkably full and accurate" A document dated 1908, provides an intriguing insight into Landsberg's activities during the Zulu Rebellion. In terms of the document Landsberg lodges a claim regarding the payment of detectives he appointed to gather intelligence at the reguest of the Prime Minister of Natal. In 1907 he was appointed Justice of the peace for the Kranskop area of the Umvoti and Magistrate of the Umvoti Division at Greytown in 1911. In 1908 he claimed prize money for activities relating to the Basuto War of 1880/81, presumably for the recovery of cattle.

NOTE: Landsberg's Volunteer Long Service Medal was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 7 January 1902 (Capt H.M. Landsberg UMR) He was inadvertently gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 18 September 1906 for the Colonial Auxiliary Forces medal ( Capt J.H.M. Landsberg UMR). His Colonial Auxiliary Forces Officers Decoration was gazette in the Natal Government Gazette on 24 May 1910 (Capt. M. Landsberg UMR), being the last of the 25 decorations awarded to Natal Officers.

Well, in that case, I don't feel I would class it as even a contender, and/or, which medal is it actually missing?