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Ernest Gagen 4001 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment 1 week 6 days ago #96142

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Good afternoon to you all. I am wondering if anybody might be ale help with any further information on the above man. i have found a copy his Discharge Certificate
Enlisted into 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment on 31st August 1897
Time served and discharged on 30th August 1907
A total of 10years including 3years and 77days embodied service
He served in South Africa and therefore has the Queens South Africa medal with clasps Orange Free State and cape Colony. He also has the Kings South Africa Medal with clasps South Africa 1901 and 1902.
I have found a medal roll for the QSA showing his clasps WO100/173, how ever i can not no seem to find the one for the KSA which i think is WO100/321.
I would be very grateful if anybody can help with finding any further information on him.
regards Andrew

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Ernest Gagen 4001 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment 1 week 6 days ago #96149

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Andrew,

Yes, you are correct. It is on the roll 321 on page 398



There do not seem to be any other service papers for him sadly.
Dr David Biggins
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Ernest Gagen 4001 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment 1 week 5 days ago #96150

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Andrew - Your man appears to have died during WW1 - this is a transcription record from Find My Past:

First name(s) Ernest Albert
Last name Gagen
Birth year 1880
Age 36
Death year 1916
Death date 14 Sep 1916
War First World War, 1914-1918
Number 3/10130
Rank Private
Unit 9th Bn.
Regiment Norfolk Regiment
Grave reference I. Q. 10.
Cemetery or memorial Wimereux Communal Cemetery
Burial country France
Additional information Husband of Sarah Gagen, of Harpley, nr. King's Lynn, Norfolk. Served in the South African campaign.

His "Effects" documentation shows he died in No.14 Stationary Hospital in France.

In my experience the paperwork covering ABW service for a man who was subsequently killed in the Great War is usually not still extant/findable.

However there are two sets of Militia Attestation paperwork (totalling 5 pages) for your man on Find My Past - a bit difficult to locate because they are held against the name of Ernest Albert Gagan. He attested for the West Riding Militia on 31/08/1897 - at the time he was living in Sheffield. On the 21/04/1898 he was transferred to the Norfolk Regiment and re-attested for service in the 3rd (Militia) Battalion of the Norfolk Regiment on the same day. Neither set of paperwork mentions service in South Africa but the one set tells you he was discharged "Time Expired" on 30/08/1907 and the other set that his mother was Maria Gagen.

If you send me your email address using the private message facility on this site happy to email you downloads of all five pages.

Regards, David.
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Ernest Gagen 4001 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment 1 week 5 days ago #96156

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Hello Andrew

Your man Ernest died of Pulmonary Tuberculosis, contracted while on active service. His rank was Sergeant in the 9th Battalion Norfolk Regiment at the time of his death.

Dave....

PS... For your records. Regarding the Sergeant information.

There are additional notes pertaining to Ernest on Find A Grave, along with a photo of his
South Africa and WW1 medals which you have kindly posted.
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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Ernest Gagen 4001 3rd battalion Norfolk Regiment 1 week 4 days ago #96173

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Just wanted to say thank you for your help
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