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conflicting records 1 week 1 day ago #87225

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I'm researching Joseph Dowell, my great Geandfather who, according to records served in the Provincial Transvaal Constabulary.

The research I have done shows his service number to be 11581 serving with the 63rd Co. Imperial Yomanry from 7/10/00 to 1/5/01. it shows his name to be JT Dowell; I can't verify his second initial 'T with other personal records, but it is incosistant with another record with the same service number: JB Dowell, shown with same company details. This is quite likely to be a clerical error, accidentally getting the second initial wrong 'B'.
I've done a search using only 'Dowell' and '11851' and it shows 1 record: 'George Thomas Dowell' with the same number. I've cross referenced this info using military search on Ancestry and it sows GT Dowell to have the same service number, but completely different dob and place of birth ( I have records of dob and pob that are verified) he certainly wasn't born in Forfar, Forfarshire, Angus so this this is definitely not Joseph Dowell, yet they have the same service number.

What's going on? it doesn't seem to make sense. this can't be an error as the surname is correct, company details are the same, but more strange is the service number.

If anyone can shed any light on this, I'd be grateful. maybe a member can cross reference my research, just to make sure I've not made a mistake somewhere along the line.

Many thanks, Ant

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conflicting records 1 week 23 hours ago #87226

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Ant, welcome to the Forum.

You mention Ancestry - have you noticed 11851 George Thomas Dowell born in Forfar appears on several public family trees (PFT's)? One implies, despite his given names, he was known as "Joe". All the PFT's agree he served in WW1 in the AIF and was killed in action on Christmas Eve 1916. Some have found his mugshot (wearing slouch hat) in "The Queenslander" of 1915.
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conflicting records 1 week 20 hours ago #87231

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Ant,

11581 George Thomas Dowell served in the 63rd IY and was born in Forfar c 1880



He signed himself G T Dowell



The roll for the 63rd IY has 11581 J B Dowell (WO100/127p5) and 11581 G T Dowell (WO100/127p9). Probably clerical errors as you suggest.

The Provisional Transvaal Constabulary entry has 11581 Tpr J T Dowell (WO100/127p1)

Do you have his QSA?

There is a man called J Dowell in the Black Watch but there are no service papers for this man.

There are no other obvious matches. Are you sure he served in the Boer War?
Dr David Biggins
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conflicting records 1 week 1 hour ago #87259

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Hello Ant
Welcome to the forum.
Is it possible for you to share what information you have pertaining to your Great Grandfather? As previously mentioned, 11581 does reflect different initials. The medal roll for 11581 records a Queens South Africa medal entitlement of 4 clasps. Wittebergen, Cape Colony and Transvaal plus a 1901 date clasp. All attributed to a Trooper Dowell 63rd Company (Wiltshire) Yeomanry. You mentioned the DOB and the Forfar place of birth is not your G Grandfather ref G T Dowell's attestation papers. What was your Great Grandfathers date of birth and place where he was born? Any additional information may help the forum to provide an explanation.


Dave.....
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Dave

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