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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 1 year 1 month ago #58177

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David,

Agreed. I have raised this with DNW.

I will let you know what happens.

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David

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 1 year 1 month ago #58179

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The cynic might say, "why let facts get in the way of a good sale?"

They recently sold a 7 clasp QSA to the Loyal North Lancs with the Relief of Ladysmith & Tugela Heights clasps etc.. without any research.

1. It is a 7 clasp, multi-battle bar clasp medal
2. Loyal North Lancs were not in that campaign, so is it a very good "odd man" medal or bogus?

Their oversight in not researching earned them an enhanced commission.

The clasps were wrong.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 1 year 1 month ago #58231

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I really think it pays to simply do the research rather than just place a degree of trust, which, very sadly, these days, is far from deserved by so many.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 1 year 1 month ago #58295

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I have been in touch with Christopher of DNW and he has modified the description on the 5th Lancers QSA to read:

William Murch Scott, from Portland, Dorset, served with the 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers in South Africa during the Boer War. One of the two squadrons of the regiment present at Elandslaagte took part in the famous charge on 21 October 1899. As the Boers mounted their horses and started to retreat, the 5th Lancers charged them three times as darkness was setting in. Many Boers were cut down and two field guns were captured, with total enemy casualties of around 350.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 1 year 3 weeks ago #58431

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Spink just sold this QSA for a hammer price of £650

QSA (1) Elandslaagte (97 Tpr: F. F. Collins. Imp: Lt. Horse), minor edge bruise, VF

Frank Frederick Collins was born on 1 January 1873 and attended Elizabeth College, Guernsey, 1884-1886; his name appears on the 'Guernsey in South Africa' roll, published on 28 July 1900. He is noted as being seriously wounded at Elandslaagte, resulting in the loss of his left leg.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 11 months 1 week ago #59102

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Picture courtesy of Morton and Eden

QSA (3) Eland DoL Belf (4720 Pte J. Walmsley, Manch: Regt);
KSA (2) (4720 Serjt: J. Walmsley. Manch: Regt);
BWM & VM (33306 C. Sjt. J. Walmsley. Manch. R.);
ISM GV (Joseph Walmsley.);
Army MSM GV (33306 C.Q.M. Sjt. - A. R. Q. M. Sjt. – J. Walmsley 12/Manch: R.);

MSM LG 3 June 1919 (Peace Gazette) – ‘33306 Coy./ Q. M. Sjt. (A./R./Q.M. Sjt.) Walmsley, J., 12th Bn. [Manchester Regiment] (Portland).

Having seen action during some of the hardest fighting of the Boer War at Elandslaagte, Ladysmith and Belfast, Joseph Walmsley continued to see service in the Great War. Initially a Home Defence battalion, the 12th Manchesters were soon needed for service on the Western Front.
Arriving at Boulogne in July 1915, the battalion was soon put into action at Ypres, and in 1916 it took part in the battles of the Somme and at Delville Wood, continuing through Arras in 1917, the Spring Offensives of 1918, and until the end of the war.

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