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Hi Arthur
Based on the dates it seems that Jan Antonie could be my grandfather.
None of the names in the family search ring any bells.
I only remember my father's one brother as uncle John, and would be the anglicised version of Jan who from memory passed away in the early1950's
I believe I was named after him, Anthony.
As a wild guess I would opt for No.6 but no. 4 is also a possibilty.
You mention 11 children but if I read the list correctly 1,2,3 are not children, but family names, making the number of children 9?
No. 2 would have been my great grandfather?
Agree that J.A. senior could have farmed in the area and the photo I have is of him in uniform. Seem to recall my dad mentioning that he rode with General Botha.
Is there anyway of establishing his enlistment?
Thanks for all the assistance.
Tony

Tony

The first three names were also Jan Antonie and Maria's children. I added the notes in [] to show the naming tradition in action. Sorry if it caused confusion.

The death notice doesn't state their dates of birth, probably because they were over 21. Baptism records show that Johanna was baptised in 1885, Hendrik in 1887, and Barend (I) in 1889. All in Ficksburg OFS. The other eight were under 21, and the official who filled in the form for Maria to sign evidently put in their dates of birth to show their ages.

Maria's death notice in 1913 indicates that only seven of her children were still living, i.e. Johanna Maria (Mrs Botha), Hendrik, Jan Christiaan Antonie, Josef Johannes, Maria Magdalena, Barend (II) and Maria Sophia. Once again, Barend's d.o.b. is given as 30.10.1904. The notice was signed by Maria's son-in-law, M.J. Botha, who appears to have taken over Jan Antonie's farm 'The Falls'.

Jan Antonie jr, Christiaan Jacob and Anna Cornelia thus evidently died between 1910 and 1913. It must have been a very hard time for the family, losing so many members in the space of three years, and making the youngest children orphans.

Johanna Botha died in 1925. Hendrik Petrus died in 1934. Joseph Johannes died in 1941.

Jan Christiaan Antonie (baptised in Ficksburg) married Anna Cornelia Sophia Pretorius in 1923, his home address being Wakkerstroom. He died in Volksrust on 25.07.1950. By then, Barend (II) was his only surviving brother.

I don't know whether ZARP enlistment papers survive. Hopefully, someone more knowledgeable will read this thread and be able to assist.

Hi David
Did you get the photo of my grandfather I emailed to you.
Assuming Jan Antonie xx 01.1863 is my grandfather, isn't it possible to find out about his enlistment in the ZARP's
FYI my fathers abridged death certificate does not indicate his parents details.
Your date of marriage is correct, excuse my typo error in transposing the date as 30.01.1931 instead of 03.01.1931
It is also possible that I may have the incorrect DoB for my father and that is the 30.10.1904
Thanks again for your assistance in getting me much further than expected in such a short time.
Tony

Arthur
Thanks for the clarification
Regards
Tony

Hi David
Do you have any comment on the photo I emailed to you?
Regards

Hi Arthur
My Maternal grandfather Alfred James Atkins DoB 1875 in Worcester, UK came out to fight in the Boer War and could have served in the 2nd Battalion Worcestershire regiment? Have not been able to find any records for him. Can you assist?
Regards
Tony