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QSA's with double RELIEF bar 5 years 6 months ago #43250

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For Rory (from the City Coins thread..)

DoL/RoM combinations recorded so far on The Register :


RoM,T,E,DoL Imperial Light Horse Apps Alfred Albert Sergeant 271
RoM,OFS,T,E,DoL Imperial Light Horse Ashe Richard Valentine Trooper 317
RoM,T,DoL 11th Hussars Black A Private 3936
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 19th Hussars Derham Robert Percy Sergeant 3036
RoM,OFS,T,TH,DoL Imperial Light Horse Emerton Joseph Lieutenant
RoM,T,E,DoL Imperial Light Horse Fowler James Trooper 1501
RoM,T,E,DoL,SA01 Imperial Light Horse Frost John Trooper 39
RoM,DoL 11th Hussars Giles AJ Private 3835
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 19th Hussars Harrison R Squadron Sergeant-Major 3255
RoM,T,DoL 11th Hussars Jenkinson E Private 3911
RoM,OFS,T,E,DoL Imperial Light Horse Karri Davies Walter David Major
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 11th Hussars Knowles C Private 3741
DH,RoM,OFS,DoL 8th Hussars Laidlaw John Private 3347
RoM,T,E,DoL Imperial Light Horse Maw Herbert Campbell Acting Corporal 133
RoM,T,E,DoL,SA01 Imperial Light Horse McGregor William Sergeant 236
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 11th Hussars Miller N Trooper 3872
RoM,OFS,T,E,DoL 5th Dragoon Guards Price Herbert Private 4365
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 11th Hussars Reid George Private 3642
RoM,OFS,E,DoL 1st Dragoons Rhodes Francis William Colonel
RoM,T,E,DoL 5th Lancers Sandys HE Sergeant 3909
RoM,OFS,T,DoL 11th Hussars Shaw TH Private 3925
RoM,OFS,T,Ta,DoL 18th Hussars Smith A Sergeant 3292
RoM,T,Ta,DoL,SA01 Dundee Town Guard Tetley Charles Hudson Private
RoM,OFS,T,TH,DoL,SA01 Cape Mounted Rifles Williams Frederick J Godwin Private 3166
RoM,CC,T,DoL,SA01 Imperial Light Horse Wood Harold Livingstone Trooper
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QSA's with double RELIEF bar 5 years 6 months ago #43252

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Here are the 3 RoK and RoM to the cavalry, including Alexander of Teck who was attached to the staff, he signed the medal roll for Jeffery and Mott





Hope this confirms these clasp issues

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So from Meurig's blog;

" From the data collected for The Register these are the available combinations and known medals to date are:
Defence of Kimberley - Relief of Mafeking : 142
Defence of Ladysmith - Relief of Mafeking : 25
Relief of Ladysmith - Relief of Mafeking : 120 (I suspect this is the least accurate of these numbers)
Relief of Kimberley - Relief of Mafeking : 6
Relief of Kimberley - Relief of Ladysmith : 1
Relief of Kimberley - (Defence of) Wepener : 3 "

With the 25 DoL/RoM named earlier.

I'm guessing the ~200 Fusiliers/ILH who travelled from the Natal front to join Mahon's flying column are represented by the 25 + 120 = 145.
Surprised at the number of DoK/RoM - not seen many of those on the market?
Who is the one person who got the double relief Kimberley and Ladysmith - that must have required some fancy logistics? So leaving the Ladysmith area between 15 Dec and 15 Feb - and within that time getting down to Durban, around the coast and up to Kimberley to be there on 15 February?

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QSA's with double RELIEF bar 5 years 6 months ago #43254

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Hello Jon

DoK/RoM - I've recorded 18 for sale since 2002 (I got one earlier this year)

RoK/RoL - P,RoK,T,TH,RoL 14th Hussars Schofield George Lance-Corporal 3328

I must get a query on the website so anyone can look this up.

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QSA's with double RELIEF bar 5 years 6 months ago #43263

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This one is NOT an "double relief" - but it adds to the list shown in your 43250
QSA named to "Capt. D.Maxwell, I.L.H." and bearing the clasps Elandslaagte/Defence of Ladysmith/Relief of Mafeking/ Transvaal/Orange Free State.

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Regarding your 43253 regarding a RofK/RofL entitlement (plus others), and Meurig's reply naming L/Cpl. G.Schofield of 14H, I think it would have been possible to attain such a clasp combination. Rof L qualification was granted to "all troops in Natal, north of and including Estcourt, between 15th December 1899 and 28 February 1900 inclusive". Two squadrons of 14H arrived at the Cape on 1st January 1900 and were sent on to Durban. So if L/Cpl. Schofield served in the qualification area for even a short period, the RofL clasp would have been earned.
The date for the RofK clasp was 15th February, 1900 and my copy of BBM shows a squadron of 14H did so qualify. How long would it have taken a soldier (possibly a servant to an important officer) to move from one front to another? Ship back to the Cape and train up to join the Kimberley relief force. Perhaps a week?
That is my reasoning anyway.
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