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Large Carriage Clock Presented to Trooper J.F. Nielsen June 1901 10 years 7 months ago #14125

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Thanks Frank. My friend is a military medal buff and purchased this clock about 6 years ago. I was quite impressed with it when he showed it to me so I told him I would look on Ancestry for Trooper J.F. Nielson. All I could find was the Medal Roll information that I mentioned before. I was hoping to find family information in the Public Member Trees but no luck. The clock is beautiful, French movement, Coaullet Freres, 11 jewel.

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Large Carriage Clock Presented to Trooper J.F. Nielsen June 1901 10 years 7 months ago #14126

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Hello Ann,
Okay, I was thinking this was a family piece, well in that case I don't feel quite so bad now, in not really being able to offer any help.
This man clearly did serve in South Africa, I think he would be almost certainly entitled to the medal, so it all does come down to his surname, again, if you are going to so much trouble with a fine clock, you would hope and believe the mans name to be spelt right.
If it has not been, the end result would still be much the same, as even if you have any attestation/discharge papers, you would not know for sure if you had the correct man, unless you actually had the family details.
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Large Carriage Clock Presented to Trooper J.F. Nielsen June 1901 10 years 7 months ago #14128

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Dear Ann,

Please see below: the original article includes a photo of Neilson. tinyurl.com/nw8w2l2


King's tribute to Boer War veteran
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Maxwell-Gillatt-wONE of the 22 Helensburgh soldiers who received carriage clocks in recognition of their service in the Boer War went on to win praise from the King of Albania.

A Lieutenant at the time of the clocks presentation in 1901, John Maxwell Gillatt rose to become a Lieutenant Colonel and was awarded the DSO and OBE.

A professional soldier whose mother lived at Broomknowe, Rhu, he served in the Boer War in the Imperial Yeomanry, then transferred to the Royal Scots.

He served with the West African Frontier Force from June 1907 until August 1911, and two years later he was appointed Adjutant to the 6th Battalion Royal Scots. He went with the Battalion to Egypt and took part in the Senussi Campaign in 1915.

The following year in France the 5th and 6th Battalions were amalgamated, and in January 1917 he was appointed to the command, with the rank of acting Lieutenant Colonel.

In the following September he took over command of a Battalion of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, and in February 1918 he was appointed to the command of the 2nd Battalion Royal Scots. He was in this post for five months, in which the Battalion played a conspicuous part in stemming the German onslaught.

Voluntarily resigning his command, he was posted to the Northern Cyclist Battalion, with which he served for over a year. That year he married Alice E. de St Croix, known as Peggy, whose home was in Jersey.

From 1919-23 he was with the 2nd Battalion in Ireland and Aldershot, after which he was seconded for service with the Iraqi Levies, commanding in turn both the 2nd and 1st Regiment.

On reaching the age limit in 1926 he retired, and was granted the rank of Lieutenant Colonel.

After three years of inactivity, in 1929 he joined the Albanian Gendarmerie, and he was promoted to Colonel in July 1935.

He was still serving with them at the time of his death at Scutari on January 21 1937, when he suffered a heart attack. The funeral took place the following day, when the wreaths included one from King Zog and another from the Albanian Cabinet.

He had a distinguished war record, both in the Boer War and World War One, being awarded the DSO in 1918 and while in Iraq being awarded the OBE in 1928.

A letter from the British Minister in Durazzo, Albania, to the Foreign Office stated: “Colonel Gillatt had served long and with distinction in the British Army at home and abroad before he joined with Albanian Gendarmerie Inspectorate in 1929.

“He was an officer of great capacity and acquired an intimate knowledge of the frontier areas in which he principally worked.”

His mother erected a brass wall tablet memorial to him in Rhu Parish Church — just as she had done 26 years earlier.

His brother, Captain William Harold Gillatt of the Royal Army Medical Corps and the Egyptian Army, accidentally shot himself in Cairo on March 8 1911 at the age of 32.

James-T.NeilsonThe only clock recipient thought to have died during the Boer War was James F.Neilson (left).

Shortly after the announcement of peace on June 2 1902 came the sad news that Corporal Neilson, of the Scottish Horse, had died of enteric fever at Elandafontain the previous day.

The day letters from Corporal Neilson — in which he spoke of being in excellent health — reached his burgh home, so too did a telegram from the War Office stating that he was dangerously ill. The following evening a second telegram said that he had died.

He joined the Scottish Horse in February 1901 and went to South Africa, arriving there just about the time that his brother, who had also been at the front, was leaving for home.

He saw a good deal of hard fighting, and took part in the engagement when a Colonel Benson was killed. He escaped without injury in the several engagements in which he took part, but he took ill with enteric fever, which claimed many victims. He recovered, but died after a second attack.

He was the eldest son of Helensburgh baker Andrew Neilson, of 114 East Princes Street, and was well known in the town, especially in Masonic circles, having been an office-bearer in the Lodge St George. He was survived by his wife and two young children.

The Helensburgh and Gareloch Times commented: “Hitherto Helensburgh has congratulated itself that no fatality had occurred among the many from this burgh who had taken part in the South African Campaign, but that consolation is no longer ours.”

In all, 45 young town and district men served in the war by the time it finished, and the Town Council commissioned a Memorial tablet in recognition of the patriotic voluntary service of all of them.

It was designed by well known burgh architect William Leiper RSA, FRIBA, builder of several iconic mansions in the town and district, and the Times described it as being of a most artistic character.

The local weekly reported: “It will form a very fitting and permanent memorial of the men who, at a time of considerable strain and stress, rendered good service to the Empire.”

After the tastefully engraved plaque was formally accepted by the Town Council it was given a prominent place in the hall of the Municipal Buildings, where it remains to this day an interesting record of the loyalty and patriotism of the burgh at a period of stress and storm in history.

The paper added: “Volunteers will no doubt prize the honour which their fellow-townsmen have conferred upon them.”

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Large Carriage Clock Presented to Trooper J.F. Nielsen June 1901 10 years 7 months ago #14129

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Here is an example of the Helensburgh clock that was sold recently by a Kent antique dealer.












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Crikey Justin,
So I was right to think SAMIF!
He is actually shown four times in WO100, as J F NELSON 2nd Scottish Horse, SAMIF number was 29058 and his IY number was 33291, he is listed as died in South Africa on the 1st of June 1902.

Ann, his original Scottish Horse attestation should be in WO126/122-126 at Kew, you see now the all important spelling of the name!
WO100/269 also confirms the issue of the medal and clasps on the 1st of November 1904, the usual five clasp combination for this unit, Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Transvaal, South Africa 1901 and South Africa 1902

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Large Carriage Clock Presented to Trooper J.F. Nielsen June 1901 10 years 7 months ago #14133

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Justin,
I want one! :sick:

JustinLDavies wrote: Here is an example of the Helensburgh clock that was sold recently by a Kent antique dealer.












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